Curse

~ Dan ~ · Feb 04, 2008, 08:39 PM // 20:39

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Originally Posted by Ragnar Blackmanes

about point 1) i've meet this matter in some post ago, you can have an elite that can giv you +40 damage with an attacck and then normal skill that give you +24 armor, or you can take elite that give you +40 armor and normal skill that do +30 damage. that's a choice.

You're forgetting that reaper's sweep causes DW when used at the right time. That's the potential for around a 150 damage hit. But yea, it may well be a choice to either have an elite for armour or an elite for damage. But at the end of the day, a melee's job is to kill things, not tank. More damage makes that happen.

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2)With un-needed you mean that a melee can have 70 armor withouth taking huge damage? i dont think that. for the armor matter its and imho-way.

Monks prot you. They stop damage alot better than you do, which frees up slots to get proper skills as appose to more armour.

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3) your personal opinion.

And many others' opinions too, i believe. Lyssa > PvE. Wounding / Melandru > PvP. Why would you want to spend an elite on a bit more armour when you have those skills available?

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

AoB pwns in use with
[skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill]
I dont take any extra dmg using that combo.
j/k

Sorry but.. if you need to state what you said is a joke, then it can't be that good of one

Sir Pandra Pierva · Feb 04, 2008, 08:47 PM // 20:47

with some of the people who post here they wont get and think that I was being serious. Even though frenzy healsig is the oldest joke in guildwars

~ Dan ~ · Feb 04, 2008, 08:59 PM // 20:59

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

with some of the people who post here they wont get and think that I was being serious. Even though frenzy healsig is the oldest joke in guildwars

It's better when they don't get it. Sarcasm is ftw.

Coloneh · Feb 05, 2008, 12:20 AM // 00:20

good argument dan!

I would have gotten bored and lost patience ages ago.

misguiding_prophet · Feb 05, 2008, 05:32 PM // 17:32

Erm Frenzy and Heal sig work fine on lvl 1 mantids ok

getting back to the topic- balthazar's avatar is perhaps the most used but one of the most (negatively) criticized elite skills on dervs. I use it more than i use grenth, so there must be something really good about it 8)

Squishy ftw · Feb 05, 2008, 05:39 PM // 17:39

or something bad about you ?

Sir Pandra Pierva · Feb 05, 2008, 06:07 PM // 18:07

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

It's better when they don't get it. Sarcasm is ftw.

ok you win this time. but next time.....

why is this thread still friggin open?

~ Dan ~ · Feb 05, 2008, 08:33 PM // 20:33

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Originally Posted by misguiding_prophet

I use it more than i use grenth, so there must be something really good about it 8)

Sorry, but i just found that pretty epic.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Feb 05, 2008, 09:50 PM // 21:50

grenth pre nerf to hell>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>AoB
post nerf=not even worth using almost ever

Coloneh · Feb 05, 2008, 11:11 PM // 23:11

pre nerf grenth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GvG and HA

it was rediculous.... thankfully only a few people were running triple-smite...

Dr Strangelove · Feb 05, 2008, 11:58 PM // 23:58

Lyssa and the tree kill stuff. Balthazar does not. Thus, balthazar sucks.

/thread

Darkside · Feb 06, 2008, 12:06 AM // 00:06

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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

Lyssa and the tree kill stuff. Balthazar does not. Thus, balthazar sucks.

/thread

Yah I think you need to have a talk with some people in our alliance about that.

mrmango · Feb 06, 2008, 12:26 AM // 00:26

Dude and then do my alliance, tell them that healing breeze is baed. =]

Coloneh · Feb 06, 2008, 01:43 AM // 01:43

i just left my alliance after i got into an argument with like 10 people about how tanking is bad...

Dr Strangelove · Feb 06, 2008, 01:51 AM // 01:51

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Originally Posted by Darkside

Yah I think you need to have a talk with some people in our alliance about that.

I'll pass on that. A couple days ago tried to explain that as long as you meet the requirement, the damage on a req13 is the same as the damage on a req7. There was much disagreement, and I went to do other things :P.

misguiding_prophet · Feb 06, 2008, 02:20 AM // 02:20

Grenth is a relatively horrible avatar in most cases but, can is useful in some elite monk tome farms- esp the insect monk bosses outside sunspear sanctuary.

I've made a lot of money spamming balth when running people-only because i cant be arsed running with a mo/e. The holy dmg bonus you get from it and its consistent spamming capacity makes it worthwhile against swarms of undead.

Risus · Feb 06, 2008, 02:35 AM // 02:35

I really only see this skill in PvE, where the +40 armor and faster running is most useful. And combined with Eternal Aura, it can be maintained infinitly.
Also its used a lot for running.

Only thing is, when I see someone use it in RA, TA, or AB, I'm just thinking, well they are down a competent player...

~ Dan ~ · Feb 06, 2008, 12:01 PM // 12:01

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

i just left my alliance after i got into an argument with like 10 people about how tanking is bad...

I left my alliance when i had an argument after someone in AC pinged a monk bar with mending, and a load of shit ele skills. They all defended this godly build. Meh..

Dzan · Feb 06, 2008, 12:28 PM // 12:28

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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

Lyssa and the tree kill stuff. Balthazar does not. Thus, balthazar sucks.

Correct. If your profession has a melee weapon and your elite doesn't make that melee weapon kill stuff, you are wasting a slot.

Stormlord Alex · Feb 06, 2008, 12:46 PM // 12:46

Whooo, I'm not alone.

I was banging my head against the wall earlier trying to explain why wasting half of a Derv's bar on heals and defense is baed

Might leave...